070 – Writing a book about Proactive Roleplaying with The Quest Brothers


Jonah and Tristan Fishel are two brothers writing a book together. Tristan started publishing on DM’s Guild and as a freelancer about a year ago, and they decided to write a book about proactive roleplaying. The book is called The Game Master’s Handbook of Proactive Roleplaying, and we talk about what proactive roleplaying means, their journey of writing this book and finding a publisher, and what it’s like to work on a project like this together.

Before we jump into the interview, I want to welcome any new listeners! This podcast is a part of Lightheart Adventures, which is a small company I co-founded with my husband. We also do blogs, one-shots, and maps that you’ll find over on our website, This show allows me to chat with so many amazing folks about business, marketing, hardships, lessons learned and how to guides across a wide spectrum of industries within the TTRPG scene. If that sounds like a show for you, then be sure to subscribe to Roll Play Grow on your favorite podcast player. 

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Time Stamps

  • 00:00:00 Introduction
  • 00:02:23 Jonah & Tristan Introduction
  • 00:08:16 How Tristan got into self-publishing and freelance ttrpg writing
  • 00:13:06 How the idea for the book came to be
  • 00:20:02 Their process for co-writing a book
  • 00:24:04 What is Proactive Roleplaying?
  • 00:33:03 Finding and working with a publisher
  • 00:49:53 What has been the most challenging part?
  • 00:53:55 What has been the most rewarding part?
  • 00:56:56 Where can people find you?
  • 00:59:39 Wrap-up

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